Bill Barr, the one-time attorney general under former President Donald Trump, told Fox News on Friday that the ex-president had no âlegitimate reasonâ to hoard classified material at his Florida resort. Furthermore, he defended the Justice Departmentâs decision to raid Mar-a-Lago, arguing that the DOJ was âbeing jerked aroundâ by Team Trump.
As a federal judge decides whether or not to grant Trumpâs request for a âspecial masterâ to review the documents seized from his property last month, the Justice Department revealed on Friday just how careless the former president had been with state secrets at his private club.
In an eight-page inventory list, the department noted that Trump had casually mixed âTOP SECRETâ documents with magazines, books, and his wifeâs clothes. One box allegedly found in the ex-presidentâs office also contained â43 empty folders with âCLASSIFIEDâ banners.â Federal prosecutors are mulling whether to charge Trump with criminal offenses under the Espionage Act and obstruction of justice.
Appearing on Fox Newsâ America Reports on Friday afternoon, Barrâwho has distanced himself from Trump over the ex-presidentâs election liesâwas immediately dismissive of Team Trumpâs attempts to appoint a special master.
âWell, I think the whole idea of a special master is a bit of a red herring,â he flatly stated. He went on to say that Trumpâs attorneys havenât identified any private lawyer communications that should be insulated from government review, adding that everything else appears to be âseizableâ by the feds.
âWhat people are missing, all the other documents taken, even if they claim to be executive privilege, either belong to the government because they are government records, even if they are classified, even if they are subject to executive privilege, they still belong to the government and go to the [National Archives],â Barr said.
âAnd any other documents that were seized, like news clippings and other things in the boxes containing the classified information, those were seizable under the warrant because they show the conditions under which the classified information was being held,â he added. âSo I think itâs a red herring. I think it would, you know, at this stage, since they have already gone through the documents, I think itâs a waste of time.â
Co-anchor John Roberts noted that Trump and his allies have claimed the ex-president had a âstanding orderâ to declassify any documents he removed from the White House when he left office.
âIs there any legitimate reason for those materials to be in the former presidentâs possession?â Roberts asked.
âNo. I canât think of a legitimate reason why they should have beenâcould be taken out of the government, away from the government if they are classified,â Barr replied. âI frankly am skeptical of the claim that he declassified everything.â
The former AG continued: âYou know, because frankly, I think itâs highly improbable, and second, if in fact he sort of stood over scores of boxes, not really knowing what was in them, and said, âI hereby declassify everything in here,â that would be such an abuse and that shows such recklessness itâs almost worse than taking the documents.â
Co-anchor Sandra Smith then said there âare some questions over the timelineâ before stating that some critics wonder if âperhaps there was more room for the authorities to obtain these materials without raiding the presidentâs home.â She asked if the raid âwas avoidableâ and whether the DOJ could have just issued a second subpoena to obtain the documents, echoing Team Trumpâs claims they were âcooperatingâ with the feds.
Barr, once again, didnât mince words.
âI think for them to have taken things to the current point they probably have pretty good evidence. But thatâs speculation and until we see that itâs hard to say,â he said.
âLet me just say, I think the driver on this from the beginning was, you know, loads of classified information sitting in Mar-a-Lago. People say this was unprecedented, well itâs also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, OK?â
Barr added: âAnd how long is the government going to try to get that back? They jawbone for a year, they were deceived on the voluntary actions taken, they then went and got a subpoena, they were deceived on that, they feel, and the facts are starting to show, that they were being jerked around and so how long, you know, how long do they wait?!â
In the end, though Barr said he hopes âit doesnât happen,â the former top attorney in the nation suggested that the DOJ may well indict the former president for hoarding classified documents.
âIf they clearly have the president moving stuff around and hiding stuff in his desk and telling people toâthey may be inclined to bring the case,â he concluded. âAnd there are differences of opinion on whether that makes sense. But we really have to know the facts to see, to make a judgment about that.â