Comedian Atsuko Okatsuka canât seem to stop blowing up on the internet. Sometimes itâs by accident, like when she joked through an earthquake on stage, and other times itâs more deliberate, like the BeyonceÌ-inspired #dropchallenge she started on TikTok with her grandmother earlier this year. Now, those fleeting moments of online attention have culminated in her explosive new HBO stand-up special, The Intruder.
In this episode of The Last Laugh podcast, Okatsuka opens up about her often difficult journey from Taiwan to Japan to Los Angeles all before the age of 10, how she has managed to turn those challenges into her own unique brand of joy-filled comedy, and how her grandma really feels about her own viral fame.
There was a time when Okatsuka would open her stand-up sets by addressing the âelephant in the roomâ: her name. She would joke that the audience could just call her âStaceyâ like her elementary school teacher did when she first moved to America.
âWhoever was bringing me up would always get scared at my name and say something weird,â she says. But now that she has her own HBO special and legions of followers on TikTok and Instagram, people are finally starting to get it right. Recently, she met a fan, also named Atsuko, who credited the comedianâs rising recognition for even the barista at Starbucks getting her name right.
As she was starting to put together The Intruder for HBO, Okatsuka recruited her âfriend and idolâ Tig Notaro to direct. The two comedians first met during the filming of a The Voice-esque Netflix reality competition show that was ultimately scrapped due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Notaro recently explained that she chose to âmentorâ Okatsuka on that show because ânot only was she SO funny but also SO different and SO ridiculous and SO clearly had such a great story to tell,â adding, âI loved her instantly.â
âSheâs unapologetically herself, and I think thatâs what I love so much about her,â Okatsuka says of Notaro, reciprocating the praise. âShe reminded me that thatâs why Iâm here, too. Because Iâm unapologetically myself.â
Born in Taiwan before spending her early childhood in Japan, Okatsuka immigrated to the United States with her mother and grandmother in the late â90s. The three generations of women lived undocumentedâessentially âin hiding,â as she puts itâin her uncleâs Los Angeles garage for seven years. By the time Okatsuka emerged into the world as a comedian, her mother had been diagnosed with schizophrenia.
It feels like some kind of miracle that she manages to find humor within her traumatic upbringing in this debut hour. âThereâs fear for sure in the excitement, too,â she says of revealing so much about herself in the new special. âI hope people relate and like it and see themselves in it. Because ultimately thatâs why I started doing comedy.â
Below is an edited excerpt from our conversation. You can listen to the whole thing by subscribing to The Last Laugh on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Stitcher, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts, and be the first to hear new episodes when they are released every Tuesday.
I wanted to ask about your earthquake clip that went viral, because thatâs an example of something that you could never have planned.
Yeah, it was 2019. I was on stage at the Ice House Comedy Club in Pasadena and I was dancing up on stage because I get excited to be on stage, and as I was dancing, thatâs when the earthquake hit. But I didnât know, because everyone was screaming and I thought they were screaming for my dancing. And I was like, âWho, me? Oh, stop it!â And then I realized they were screams of terror. And people were like, âItâs an earthquake, itâs an earthquake!â I think it was a 7.1 magnitude. So immediately I went into jokes about it, but also wanted to make sure everyone was OK. So I did at first say, âOh shit, I thought I was making that happen with my dancingâ and got laughs. But then I made sure to stop everything and make sure everyone was OK.
It was very impressive that you were able to joke through it.
Truly, thatâs what we train for as comedians. I have a mom with schizophrenia, I lived in a garage in hiding for seven years, I was undocumented for seven years, I havenât seen my dad in forever. My dadâs on his third marriage. I just lost my stepmom. I have half-siblings that donât talk to me because my mom was abusive to them. I mean, at a certain point itâs like, whatâs an earthquake? Are you kidding me? When you do stand-up, which I do multiple times a week, every night, and we have to deal with drunk hecklersâMother Nature? I got it, no problem.
Did the experience of watching that clip make the rounds and get attention give you a taste of what itâs like to have that viral fame experience and make you want to find other ways to do it?
No, that wasnât the takeaway. I thought it was wild. I was like, âOh, wow, you do comedy for so longâand my comedy is not bad, pretty good actuallyâbut apparently during an earthquake itâs out of this world!â So it is funny that that is what it sometimes takes for people to notice you. But I love chaos like that. Sometimes it takes a #dropchallenge, which I also started earlier this year by accident. Iâm always going, how do I connect to people? How do I make it so that itâs fun for the masses? But Iâm never going, how do I make this viral? Because I donât know how anything really goes viral. It has to hit people at the right time, I guess. And so Iâve had viral moments, like the earthquake or the #dropchallenge, other videos I made with grandma during the pandemic, things like that. But theyâre always funny to me, because Iâm like, âWhat? This? OK!â
So did you feel that way with the #dropchallenge? What was the story behind starting that?
Me and my grandma were just shopping in Little Tokyo in Los Angeles and I love that song by BeyonceÌ, âPartition.â It had been out for years, but ever since it dropped I was like, that bass drop is so cool. And me and grandma always like to make videos, anyway, just for fun. And so we were just having fun and I was like, wouldnât it be fun if weâre walking around a Little Tokyo, and in my head Iâm singing that song? I was like, what if I just sometimes âdropââwhatever weâre doing, while weâre walking, while weâre picking up groceries, while my grandmaâs just standing there, I just drop in front of her to the beat? All of our videos take like 30 seconds to shoot.
Is it ever frustrating that the thing that gets the biggest reaction is the thing that took 30 seconds and the thing that you work on for years and years, maybe it doesnât get as popular?
It could be, but I actually find it really refreshing because I love raw energy. And preparing, of course. I practice stand-up. I write, write, write and I practice at home to my plants. They die. And I bring it to the stage. Iâm such a nerd about stand-up comedy and writing jokes and that part is really important to me. But thereâs nothing like raw energy and being down for that when youâre on stage too. And so yeah, itâs actually freeing that people like seeing the DIY-ness of something, the maybe not-so-professional aspect of it. Isnât that why people like SNL too? Because something could go wrong.
What does your grandmother think about all of this? Sheâs been starring in your videos in different ways for a while now.
Sheâs understanding. Sheâs picking up on it because, you know, anything Hollywood, industry, entertainment, itâs so far removed from anything our family has ever been a part of. And so for grandma, she had a lot of questions. What do these views mean? Why donât they equal money?
Why doesnât it pay? Thatâs a good question! Iâm entertaining people for free when I post things on social media. And then it all kind of came together for her when she came out with me to shoot my HBO special in New York, because then she saw the crew and the director and the people that came out for me and all these people working to make my special happen. And we flew in first class, and weâd never done that before. From the garage to first class! And she was like, âThe champagne is free? And the meal is free? My seat reclines? I can lay flat on a plane?â And I think she was really understanding then, too, that this whole thing is a racket. [Laughs] No, not a racket. But itâs like, you can really just write jokes and get there.
I mean, your comedy was good enough to get you this special no matter what, but do you think that the videos and all that attention that you got for that stuff did play a role in making the special happen and getting to where you are?
All of it. Everything you do plays a role in where you are today. Every single thing. Iâm an open book and Iâm so thankful, because it is scary to be an open book. This is me. I like this song. I like dancing like this. This is my grandma. I like dancing with her. We have fun because she was always a caretaker and she didnât always get to play, and now she gets to. This is my mom. She has schizophrenia. I love her. This is my husband. This is who I am. These are my fears. These are my weird quirks. I donât speak English correctlyâstill! This is me. This is my haircut. This is my actual haircut as a grown woman, a bowl cut, yes, this is me. Itâs all scary, but thatâs how the fan base grew and thatâs how people came out to see my comedy.
You do find ways to make even something like your motherâs schizophrenia funny in the special, which canât be easy. How did you go about trying to find comedy in that?
It took a lot of time. And it honestly took the pandemic. Because everyone was looking inwards more and thinking more and self-reflecting more. And I was doing the same. Itâs not just a pandemic. People are going through depression, bipolar, other mental illnesses like my mom. And now theyâre isolated and maybe they canât see their loved ones⊠elders. [Starts to cry] Sorry, I got really sad just now. My mom and grandma live 20 minutes away from me. But there were so many people who didnât get to say goodbye to their grandma, because she passed and they couldnât be near her. And so that all made me really want to make things better for everyone even more. My momâs not the only one suffering from this. My husbandâs mom also has schizophrenia and I can at least speak from my experience and make people laugh about it. And not just laugh about it, but also normalize it.
For anyone who watches your special and is going through something similar, I think it really does help to hear someone talking about it in that way and finding lightness and joy in something that can be so difficult.
Totally. That would make me so happy.
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