Josh Levs really just wants one little thing: âFor men and women to join forces and stand together against the backward policies that are hurting us.â
He said this to me during a phone conversation this week in response to my having tentatively suggested that the purpose of his book, All In: How our Work-First Culture Fails Dads, Families, and BusinessesâAnd How We Can Fix It Together, which went on sale Tuesday, is to encourage and empower men to take a more active role in parenting. Thatâs part of the bookâs message, of course; but Levs broke down the broader call to action for me, adding, âWomen have made so incredibly many awesome advances, and men have been the beneficiaries of the decades of fighting for equality that women have carried out, and now thereâs an opportunity, in a really big way, for men to say âWe are hereâŚwe are part of thisâŚletâs do this together.ââ
In 2013, Josh Levs went from being a CNN correspondent and fatherhood pundit to being a Dad In The News when he filed charges with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission against his bosses. With two boys already at home, Levs and his wife had decided they should take advantage of every moment of paid leave he was entitled to as soon as their third child, a girl, was born. Upon investigating his benefits, however, he found that, unlike employees who became parents through any means other than impregnating another person, he was only allowed two weeks of paid time off. Biological moms, adoptive moms and dads, moms and dads who used a surrogate, and even same-sex, non-co-adoptive partners of adoptive parents, were eligible for ten weeks of paid leave. But not Levs, or any other biological dads who worked for CNNâs parent company Time Warner.
Levs became the âposter-boyâ for fathersâ rights in the workplace, his case eventually prevailed, and Time Warner changed its policy to one that is more equitable.
In his new book, Levs launches off of his personal story into an exploration of how âlaws, policies, and stigmas are standing in the way of our freedomâthe freedom to design our lives in the ways that work best for our families and make us productive, satisfied workers.â Along the way, he offers âpractical steps and action itemsâ we can use to subvert and transform traditional gender expectations and gendered policies to âbuild better lives and a family-friendly nation.â
Despite vignettes about some âNeanderthalâ holdouts who cling to traditional stereotypes glorifying alpha male corporate conquistadors and boast (or at least humblebrag) about how little time they spend with their families, All In gives the reader the impression that most dads actually yearn to spend more time with their families and take a more hands-on approach to parenting than their fathers did. Levs argues that when men are encouraged and supported in their efforts to share the parenting and other household responsibilities, everyone in the family, the community, and even the businesses that employ them benefit. When I asked him why this apparent no-brainer seems not to have become universally accepted, Levs answered, âThere are communities of peopleâand youâre part of one of them [Levs and I belong to the same âdad bloggersâ Facebook group, where over 1,000 fathers talk about everything from potty training to media portrayals of dads]âwhere people recognize these realities. But when it comes to our workplace policies, and our laws, and our stigmas, they are still stuck in the 1950s. These structures that dictate so much of our lives have not even begun to catch up. We grew up on Free To Be You and Me, with a basic belief in gender equality; and then we arrived at the workplace and had children, and discovered that the workplace never did grow up.â
I asked Levs what will drive the culture to a place where enough political will exists to actually effect the kind of change in these retrograde structures that keep us from being free to be, you know, you and me. âWhat it will take to get to a tipping point,â he said, âis for men and women to join hands in this battle together to educate our communities, to educate our businesses, to stand up for better laws that work better for everyone, and ultimately for kids. And whatâs better for kids is always better for society.â
To provide context for the extent to which parental leave policies affect children, Levs added, âWe have a health care system that is supposed to make sure that children are covered, and that makes sense. We understand as a society that itâs good for society to have kids that are educated and have access to medical care. The kinds of things weâre talking about hereâmaking sure that when a child is born, that at least one of its parents can spend time with it without worrying about having to put food on the tableâthis is equally basic. In politics especially, we talk about family values; but our structures show that we donât adequately value families.â
There are other aspects of our society besides politics and business that have not caught up with the changing attitudes toward gender roles. I asked Levs what other cultural hurdles we faced in this struggle, and he responded, âThe pop-culture image of dads is far from the reality of dads. This image that we have that dads are less capable at home, that dads are buffoons, that dads are lazy, that dads are uninvolved, that dads are not working as hard on behalf of their familiesâall of these things are myths. And they are the fuel that drives our backward policies.â These myths crop up in a number of anecdotes Levs uses in All In to illustrate how the media get dads wrong, along with some bright spots where brands have responded to backlash against these tropes. Unfortunately, there are always some throwbacks willing to perpetuate stereotypes that threaten to hobble the march toward gender equity.
âThis is why it matters so much when Piers Morgan makes this comment the other day, and Joe agrees with him,â Levs said, referring to Morganâs assertion on MSNBCâs âMorning Joeâ that the reason men tend not to claim the parental leave they are entitled toâmuch less fight for moreâis because they donât want to spend time with their newborn children, and furthermore, that they are âuselessâ around them.
Levs wants to be clear that we canât blame this gender inequity completely on nebulous entities such as âcultureâ or âsocial structures,â and that we as individuals need to confront our own complicity in the perpetuation of stereotypes, myths, and attitudes that maintain the status quo in regard to outdated gender roles. There is a chapter in the book that addresses âmale privilegeâ and âfemale gatekeeping,â the corresponding gears that keep the vicious cycle of hands-off fatherhood grinding along, despite some progress in the opposite direction. Men are taught that they are naturally inept at childcare and housework, and so they are quick to excuse themselves from those responsibilities. And even when they do try to get involved, their wives or partners, who have been taught the same about menâs ineptitude, tend to shoo them away when they donât meet Momâs exacting standards. Although these behaviors are learned, itâs our responsibilityâboth men and womenâto, well, get over ourselves.
Finally, lest crusading for menâs rights in the workplace draw eye rolls, Levs added, emphatically, âWhat I talk about in All In, this discriminationâŚthis is not discrimination against men: itâs discrimination against men and women. The same discrimination that tells men âyouâre less capable at homeâ is the discrimination thatâs pushing women to stay at home and taking their options away.
So why do we have so few women in the halls of power? Just 4.6 percent of CEOs in the S&P 500 are women. Why is this? Well, a big, huge reason is the cultural thinking that pushes women to stay home and men to stay at work. And we have to change that thinking, by pushing pop culture, by teaching our kids that there actually is equality in our capabilities, and by standing up to Neanderthals like Piers Morgan, because whenever they say things like that, people in power in corporations go, âyeah, thatâs trueâ.â