When Saturday Night Live announced it had hired three new featured players to join its cast for the upcoming 45th season on Thursday, comedian Paul F. Tompkins tweeted, â#RIP Their old tweets.â
The show is bringing on board Groundlings performer Chloe Fineman, current writer Bowen Yangâwho will become the first East Asian cast member in the showâs historyâand a stand-up comedian from Philadelphia named Shane Gillis.
Turns out it was Gillis who had reason to be concerned about his âproblematicâ history.
He was apparently worried enough to delete all of the videos from his podcastâs YouTube channel and all but the most recent episodes from the internet. But that wasnât before a journalist named Seth Simons posted a clip from a September 2018 episode of Matt and Shaneâs Secret Podcast, which Gillis co-hosts with fellow comic Matt McCusker.
In the clip, Gillis says, âDamn, Chinatown is fucking nuts,â before adding, âLet the fucking chinks live there.â Throughout the rest of the short clip, both Gillis and McCusker comically imitate stereotypical Asian accents as they complain about the âdishonestâ nature of MSG and the âfucking hassleâ of ordering food from someone who doesnât speak English well.
In another clip from the same podcast episode, the pair spend time arguing that not only white people can be racist before McCusker says he thinks South East Asian women âtake the cakeâ in terms of looks. âYou like ladyboys?â Gillis asks in response.
In another podcast clip from earlier this year uncovered by Vultureâs Megh Wright, the pair can be heard using homophobic slurs to mock comedians like Judd Apatow and Chris Gethard, calling them âwhite f*ggot comicsâ and âfucking gayer than ISIS.â
Gethard responded on Twitter Thursday night, writing, âOne of the guys SNL hired today is in trouble for calling me a f*aggot on his podcast (among other things). This was his reaction to my special about depression.â Referring to his HBO special about suffering from depression, he added, âI feel confident that at least in this moment Iâm more proud of Career Suicide than he is of his shitty podcast.â
They also spend time on that same episode arguing that men are funnier than women and ranking comedians by race, gender and sexual orientation. âWhite chicks are literally the bottom,â Gillis says, adding, âAli Wong is making it so Asian chicks are funnier than white chicks.â
Wright quotes the owner of a Philadelphia comedy club owner who says the theater âstopped working with [Gillis] within the past few years because of racist, homophobic, and sexist things heâs said on and offstage.â
A representative from Saturday Night Live was not immediately available for comment.
Gillisâ comments already appear to be outraging people on Twitter. In one tweet, CNN opinion writer Jeff Yang wrote, âYeah if you want to know what being a person of color is like, itâs literally that for every Bowen Yang-shaped step you take forward, you also take one racist-ass Shane Gillis-shaped step back.â
Stephanie Foo, a producer for This American Life, added, âThis is the most racist thing Iâve heard against Chinese people in a long damn while. Why on earth would you say this in public? Letâs make him fucking regret this.â
Comedians, who are often hesitant to criticize the jokes of other comics, also shared their disappointment in the hire.
Korean-American comedy writer Daniel Chun, who has written for both The Simpsons and The Office, responded by saying, âThis is stupid and racist, but at least itâs also unfunny.â
Comedian and actress Jen Kwok tweeted, âIf you donât think racism exists and is a problem on every level, here is a video of two white guys having a casual conversation in which they make fun of Chinese people for two minutes straight. As comedy. In 2018.â
Lao comedian, podcaster and showrunner Kulap Vilaysack, simply wrote, âThis makes me very mad.â
And Padma Lakshmi said, âBesides being incredibly racist, itâs also just not funny. Is this the White Privilege Podcast Hour or what?â
But there is another contingent of comedy fans who are holding him up as an avatar of anti-woke, politically-incorrect comedy that has mostly been represented on SNL of late by âWeekend Updateâ co-anchor Michael Che.
Like Che before him, Gillis also defended comedian Louis C.K. in an interview with PhiladelphiaNeighborhoods.com last year. âItâs not like stand-ups were looked at as great members of society before all this stuff happened,â Gillis said. âNo, I donât think anything is affected. What? Just because Louis got caught⌠No, thatâs changed nothing. Heâs still the best.â
In another interview from 2016, Gillis spoke specifically about trying to âfind the lineâ in comedy.
âYou could make a fucking terrorist joke. ISIS joke. Anything else got laughs. But police brutalityâ the white people were like, âDonât do that. Please donât do that.â Thatâs interesting,â he said. âYou throw stuff out there and you get to see them react to things, like yea or nay, whatâs funny and whatâs not.â
âYou can be racist to Asians. Thatâs what weâre finding out,â Gillis added. âItâs just blatant hypocrisy though.â
Now, the question remains, will Lorne Michaels and SNL stand by their decision to cast Gillis? Or will they take Twitterâs suggestion and cancel him?
UPDATE: Hours after the initial controversy erupted, Gillis posted the statement below to his Twitter account. The comedian did not apologize for his past statements, but rather offered an apology to âanyone whoâs actually offendedâ by anything heâs said.