Corey Lewandowski, a recently rehired campaign adviser for Donald Trump, deflected multiple times when asked by MSNBC anchor Ari Melber why he had deliberately been dishonest to him in a prior interview.
Instead, Lewandowski accused Melber of making certain critical comments about Trump, which Melber denied, to the point where the MSNBC anchor threatened legal action for defamation if Lewandowski continued to do so.
On Wednesdayâs broadcast of The Beat, Melber brought Lewandowskiâs attention to a September 2019 House hearing that referenced an MSNBC interview he gave that February. In that interview, Lewandowski claimed he didnât remember Trump asking him to be a conduit to the Justice Department. Yet Lewandowksi admitted to lawmakers he was untruthful, saying he had âno obligation to be honest with the media because theyâre just as dishonest as anybody else.â
After Melber asked Lewandowski why people should believe him now if heâs âlying about other things,â Lewandowski refused to answer.
âAri, if weâre going down this road, are you going to state that Donald Trump had a bandage on his ear just for a spectacle? Are you going to state that that was false? The guy got shot in the head, and you said the only reason he had a bandage on his earâI could read you the quote if you wantâthat you said it was just for a spectacle. So if you want to apologize, Ariââ
Melber jumped in.
âCorey, youâre not answering the question. I know what youâre referring to, and at the end of the interview we can touch base on that, but weâre going to finish this question,â Melber said.
Yet that proved difficult to do, because for the next several minutes, Lewandowski refused to drop itâeven as he claimed he was there âto answer questions.â
âYou canât ask me something when youâre not willing to say you were wrong, too!â Lewandowski protested.
Eventually, after Melber said Lewandowski had been âbustedâ under oath, the MSNBC anchor addressed what the Trump adviser kept bringing up.
On July 16âs episode of The Beat, Melber discussed the effect of Trumpâs ear bandage. He first quoted a story in The New York Times by its television critic, who wrote that Trump âwas his own biggest propâ at the RNC. The story added that the bandage was âa reminder of mortality, a badge of survivalâit was a blank rectangle on which the crowd could read what it wished, and that made it the most potent placard in the hall.â
After quoting those excerpts, Melber offered his own analysis, which fell along similar lines.
âThatâs fair,â Melber said then. âA placard for delegates to fill in, an image for political mobilization, a spectacle for this candidate who we know is, by his own admission, obsessed with assorted spectacles.â
Melberâs use of the word âspectacleâ was cited in a FoxNews.com article the next day.
On Wednesday, Melber delved into this.
âI quoted a New York Times article that said at the [Republican National] Convention, Donald Trump âwas his own biggest prop.â It was a New York Times quote about how he had become such an important figure in rebounding from what was a horrific assassination attempt,â he told Lewandowski.
âFox News, which has been caught in defamation, ran a false piece falsely stating that I said something else that I didnât say,â he claimed. âSo, I stand on that. I stand on the New York Times quote.â
Lewandowski sought clarification: âSo, you didnât say, âThis bandage was a prop, a spectacle from a candidate whoâs obsessed with spectacles?ââ
Melber denied it. âI did not say that. That is a false quote,â he said.
After Lewandowksi maintained that he did, Melber repeated that it was âa false quote.â
âIâm putting you on notice: If you continue to repeat falsely that I said that, you will be potentially in a defamation situation, because I didnât say that,â he told him. âBut I understand that youâre working off the internet, which has a lot of false information.â
Melber then swiftly concluded the interview.
Later Wednesday night, Lewandowski posted to X his exchange with Melber about Trumpâs bandage, along with the clip of Melberâs comments on July 16.
âAn MSNBC Host threatened to sue me for defamation tonight for (by definition) the opposition of defamation >> Quoting their own words,â the Trump adviser wrote. âWatch for yourself and let me know what you think.â